Michael Arrington interviewed Salesforce founder and CEO Marc Benioff recently at TechCrunch Disrupt.  It’s a great conversation, including a few touching stories about Marc’s relationship with Steve Jobs.  You should watch the entire conversation if you have a chance, there’s some truly wise observations from Benioff.

But what emerges is one of the best things I have ever heard regarding Steve Jobs.  Marc describes how we shouldn’t look at Jobs as an example of leading by being an asshole, visionary or anything like that, but in understanding Steve Jobs showed us the way through self actualization.

“Actualize Yourself.  Look at the world from the inside out.”  Benioff says Jobs was successful because he was not afraid to take the journey towards self actualization.  “We all need to all be working on actualizing ourselves.”